Welcome to AliceinChains.com Sign in| Join | Help

Flash icon You do not have the Flash plugin installed, or your browser has Javascript turned off or does not support Javascript. To install the Flash plugin visit Adobe Flash download page.


Primary Election

Last post Sat, Jun 14 2008, 2:02 PM by TheREALkiller206. 124 replies.
Page 6 of 9 (125 items)   « First ... < Previous 4 5 6 7 8 Next > ... Last »
Sort Posts: Previous Next
  •  Tue, Feb 05 2008, 7:30 PM 103090 in reply to 103053

    Re: Primary Election

    Grit:

    LMFAO!!!

     

    Whats funny is I had to make a quick stop here to read up on some issues before voting..... not that I would let any of you make up my mind..... its just strikes me as funny I would come here to read up on issues and opinions as well as other news worthy(turns on sarcasm) websites like CNN, FOX, etc.... 

    hey Grit!!!

    Wazzzup my brother!

    We miss you man!!!

    When are you coming up for a visit?

    I don't have the work schedule I had in 2005 so I can't make those road trips as often.

    We need to do Magic Mountain asap.

    One thing about the elections....

    I gaurantee you that THIS website is a better place to get "news" or political info than anywhere.

    My 2 cents on some cali issues up for vote.....

    Please vote NO on the Indian gambling bill. It's a bill put forth by Vegas casino's for the sole purpose of profit for Vegas casino's and only 4 tribes will benefit at all and they already make a ton of dough.

     Even the commercials are deceptive as hell. The "Yes" crowd has run ads that list a bunch of tribes that never endorsed this plan at all.

    A deal needs to be made to help ALL tribes but this isn't a deal. This is stealing.

    Another bad one is the community college bill to help them. This money will come from K-12 and they are already underfunded.

    Community college needs more money but not at the expense of kids in public education.

    This won't even help community colleges much at all. If passed the average will go up from $2200 per student to $2450 per student. The national average is $8k per student.

    A $250 bump in the name of sucking money from K-12 is idiotic and don't forget that colleges will just increase their fees next year and we'll have to start over.

    Celebrate your vote my brother!

    A toast!

    c ya!

     

     


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Tue, Feb 05 2008, 7:45 PM 103102 in reply to 102889

    Re: Primary Election

    SoFarAway:
    TheREALkiller206:

    OK then WHY are Republicans in Government all over America ok with the past 7 years of open borders from the south?

    WHY are they pushing so hard for “amnesty?”

    There are several reasons why this is happening and you have hit on just a few.  Here are some more to consider.  First, the hispanic population is growing and will very soon be a majority in the US.  With this in mind, the Republicans want to be regarded as the party of choise for the hispanic community and its members who will receive this amnesty, path to citizenship, or whatever you want to call it.  Second, they will represent a new source of taxes.  Third, they will be governed by our laws and punished for violating them.  Finally, it would be better that they become citizens than F'n "guest workers", which would be even worse for US workers.  We need to extend residency status to all illegals who reside in the US and give them a chance to earn the right to stay and be a legitimate part of our great country.  However, if that trust is violated, then the deportation process should be streamlined.  One thing you can count on is that the only true amnesty will be for the employers.       

    Well said!

    I hope I didn't come off as being anti immigrant because I'm really not.

    I was just trying to sacrastically touch on the Republican Party's willingness to look the other way for all these years.

    They knew that once ten million or so got into the country there would be no way in hell to send them home.

    Not only did they create that whole can of worms themselves but now they are acting like Democrats caused the problem because Mexicans typically vote Democrat which would mean more votes for them....now that's a slick spin!!!

    This whole thing is laughable, especially in a country FULL of immigrants.

    This is probably the most complex issue of them all.

    I often wonder what the native Americans think of us on this one? We moved here illegally and took almost  everything they had and now we have the nerve to demand others get out.

    On one hand we see people that are hungry and broke and willing to work hard and how can a religious society such as ourselves (laughing inside) deny them that opportunity?

    On the flip side I see our infastructure breaking down bigtime be it hospitals, schools, government agencies, etc...

    My wonderful GF (The Bear) teaches here in Cali and more than half of her students don't speak any Engish at all. I'm not saying we should kick anyone out but I think it would be a good idea to have specific schools set up to teach English and then integrate the kids into our public schools once they grasp the language.

    before anyone spins that let me clarify.
    I'm not in favor of English only laws or any of that silly right wing stuff but I am in favor of making sure ALL kids are given a good education including American kids and the current system does not allow English speaking kids a solid education.

    The English language kids sit back and watch Lindsey try to communicate with the spanish speaking kids all day and this is not good for anyone.

    I know one thing...there is no way in hell we can gather up 28 million people and march them out of the country.

    Romney is the ultimate idiot for even posing this idea.

    It's hard to believe he's probably our next President huh?

    The guy believed that millions of Indians died in a war in upstate New York....I guess that means he'll believe anything even to the extent of getting millions of people to leave our country to go back to the dump we call mexico.

    I have to run!

    peace!


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Tue, Feb 05 2008, 7:57 PM 103106 in reply to 103042

    Re: Primary Election

    TheREALkiller206:
     

    thanks for the explainationYes

    i didnt know the media in america is so manipulative... of course, i'm living in englad.

    but, excuse me about my bad knowledge, if i were an american, i would not vote for Hillary.
    honestly, why would i do, when at this time of the year, the country really needs a big change.
    for me, she only symbolize the "glorious" economic days, which really couldnt apply to nowadays. it's only a nostalgia people are seeking. It's the past, if you know what I mean.
    The idea of first female president is very attractive, but i dont think americans need that at the moment.  After the 911, the iraq war and the bad economics that is happening now, what i think most important for now would be having someone "fresh" "lively" and at least sounded someone who really care for the States
     

    May be Obama is a good choice, or may be not. May be someone in the republicans could do the job or not.

    i just think hillary is not the right choice to be president at the moment, imho.

    but hey, you wont know who will be the best until they start actually working on the job.

    all i want now is to see someone kick Dubya's butt out of the president chair....... or worse.
    but im not american so i dont have to right. so my aic comrades, hope you guys made the right choice/vote for yourself:-D
     


    "We got famous off singing about a chicken."
    - Sean Kinney
    "I believe the Internet is inherently evil."
    - Jerry Cantrell
  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 1:10 AM 103194 in reply to 103106

    Re: Primary Election

    i've decided who i'm gonna vote for.

    drum role please..................

     

     

    here we go......

     

     

     

     

     

    i'm going to vote for...............

     

     

     

     

    you ready............................

     

     

    are you sure you're ready for this..............

     

     

     

    i'm voting for........................

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    HULK HOGAN!

  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 1:30 AM 103198 in reply to 103194

    Re: Primary Election

    I got to the second half of RealK's second post on this page......

    and now my head hurts.


    One can only receive and retain
  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 4:20 PM 103318 in reply to 98298

    Re: Primary Election

    MANdirtEXCUSES:

    You know, it sucks that during the debates the one who I liked the most was the one who spoke with the most passion, Ron Paul.  He'll never get it, though.  Im a registered Republican, so out of the four I'm probably going to go with McCain.  He has the most experience, but then again he's not experienced in the executive branch.  Huckabees too religous and closed minded, Giuliani seems to truly back himself on just 9/11 and Romney; although a brilliant businessman and an all around good person does seem to want to be President, just to be President. 

    I'm not fully impressed with any of the candidates who have a chance.

    I was impressed with Obama getting votes. 

    Lets be honest here.  The President who will do the best job cleaning up what happened, even though I dont HATE Bush, would be Hillary.  Her hubby, ehemm, Political Partner whose already been there for 8 years would be the best adjusted to take control.  I hate the Clintons, though..

     

     

    I wish Ron Paul had a chance. I would go with Romney so we can pull our economy out of the fucking gutter.

    I'm sure Mccain will probably win. Blah.  


    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 6:03 PM 103351 in reply to 103106

    Re: Primary Election

    pattipatti:
    TheREALkiller206:
     

    thanks for the explainationYes

    i didnt know the media in america is so manipulative... of course, i'm living in englad.

    but, excuse me about my bad knowledge, if i were an american, i would not vote for Hillary.
    honestly, why would i do, when at this time of the year, the country really needs a big change.
    for me, she only symbolize the "glorious" economic days, which really couldnt apply to nowadays. it's only a nostalgia people are seeking. It's the past, if you know what I mean.
    The idea of first female president is very attractive, but i dont think americans need that at the moment.  After the 911, the iraq war and the bad economics that is happening now, what i think most important for now would be having someone "fresh" "lively" and at least sounded someone who really care for the States
     

    May be Obama is a good choice, or may be not. May be someone in the republicans could do the job or not.

    i just think hillary is not the right choice to be president at the moment, imho.

    but hey, you wont know who will be the best until they start actually working on the job.

    all i want now is to see someone kick Dubya's butt out of the president chair....... or worse.
    but im not american so i dont have to right. so my aic comrades, hope you guys made the right choice/vote for yourself:-D
     

    Hi patti,

    Thanks for the insightful post. It's always good to hear what others around the world think about our leaders, system, etc...

    We are very isolated from this type of conversation in America except for one on one stuff like this on the internet.

    One thing I disagree with is when you said you don't have rights to care about the elections here and I disagree especially with guys like Bush running the show.

    The entire World should take notice when we have elections here because so many of our leaders decisions impact others around the world be it trade, torture, wars or a falling US dollar from ourdebt and spending that impacts other economies, etc...

    I hate saying it but our policies impact a lot more than just us US citizens.

    Look at Iraq for example. If Bush didn't get appointed by our high court then England wouldn't have lost so many lives or spent so much money in Iraq.

    I was glad to hear your PM decided to get out of there.

    All of the Republican candidates (except Ron Paul who is actually a libertarian) has pledged to stay in Iraq even if it's a 100 year commitment.

    This should really make a lot of people take notice.

    The ONLY reason the Republicans have pledged not to move our military out is because they have assured the American people that a bloodbath will ensure when in reality it's very very doubful that will happen which will make them look either very stupid or very dishonest.

    Most of the real experts in our Government have said that there will be minimal impact from our departure.

    The Contractors making the big bucks in Iraq have hired their own "experts" (think Oil company methods in regards to global warming) and they have spread the word that "chaos will spread if we leave Iraq" and these companies advertise heavily in the US media so the media never has given us any other scenario.

    It's all about money and ego at this point and we need to pull the plug on this type of immoral corporate welfare.

    I also disagree with you about Hillary Clinton. I did not vote for her but she is by far the 2nd best choice.
    If you look through her Senate voting record she's never made a vote in her own best interest. Because of this near perfect voting record our media repeats all day every day that "she voted for the war." This was by far her worst vote but it still was a vote that was not in her best interest at all.

    She knows the proven method of turning around our ecomony.

    The first thing she will do is something that her hubby messed up on and that's the trade deal with china. This has to be renegotiated immediately. Bush didn't have anyone who could make this happen but Hillary will send Bill Richardson over there and get this worked out.

    The next step is rolling back the tax cuts on the top 3% of earners. We are talking about billioniares here who won't even miss the money. This will give us added federal revenue wiggle room to pay off some debt to China which then allows us more wiggle room with the remaining poor trade policies.

    Obviously Iraq is a giant money pit. We could do a lot with that $10 billion a month.

    Then  we have to fix the changes in our tax laws that Republicans added in 2002 to give their CEO friends tax cuts for taking their companies jobs outside the country.

    This not only saves jobs which creates revenue for the feds but it also saves in lost tax revenues from companies. She can do exactly what Bill did in giving tax cuts to companies who are in tourble and looking to move out of the country to survive. Tax cuts will allow the companies to stay in America AND prosper. This worked well in the 1990's but Republicans reframed it as "selective bribes to certain companies." yea......ones that were in trouble.

    I see no reason at all to give a very profitable company tax incentives to LEAVE our country.

    That's total BS and our media has never told the American people that Republicans did this crap.

    I have to run. I'll be back later.

    bye


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 7:19 PM 103385 in reply to 103318

    Re: Primary Election

    SoulDesertion:
    MANdirtEXCUSES:

    You know, it sucks that during the debates the one who I liked the most was the one who spoke with the most passion, Ron Paul.  He'll never get it, though.  Im a registered Republican, so out of the four I'm probably going to go with McCain.  He has the most experience, but then again he's not experienced in the executive branch.  Huckabees too religous and closed minded, Giuliani seems to truly back himself on just 9/11 and Romney; although a brilliant businessman and an all around good person does seem to want to be President, just to be President. 

    I'm not fully impressed with any of the candidates who have a chance.

    I was impressed with Obama getting votes. 

    Lets be honest here.  The President who will do the best job cleaning up what happened, even though I dont HATE Bush, would be Hillary.  Her hubby, ehemm, Political Partner whose already been there for 8 years would be the best adjusted to take control.  I hate the Clintons, though..

     

    I wish Ron Paul had a chance. I would go with Romney so we can pull our economy out of the fucking gutter.

    I'm sure Mccain will probably win. Blah.  

    hi SD,

    While I diagreed with Ron Paul on some key issues I love the guy and I would have been perfectly happy if he were elected President.

    We need a massive sshake up in the worst way and Paul would have delivered (as would Obama)

    Ronmey and McCain are both on record (in almost every speech) saying that they agree with the trickle down policies Bush put in place which is why we are in this mess with a falling dollar, falling wages, and massive jobs leaving the country.

    If you want our economy fixed then Romney is actually the worst choice.

    The media likes to say that "he's been CEO of very sucessful companies"  but the truth (or lies) lies in the details.

    Look at how he's addressed building profit within the companies he's ran.

    He did the exact same thing that Republicans in Government have done for the past 7 years to help those CEO's out.

    Step 1: Move jobs OUT of America.

    Step 2: Bring in cheap labor from other countries to build profits and that also works against American workers because we lose bargaining power in wage negotiations.

    Step 3: Use step 2 to keep American wages flat or falling.

    Step 4: Merge with enemies and then cut heads (and raise prices)  

    These plans are why unemployment is up and  wages are flat for the first time since the great depression.(wages are down for women and minorities)

    These guys are all mega corporate whores who don't understand what it's like to live pay day to pay day.

    Romney said in a speech recently that he sees the economy falling and he thinks about what stocks he should buy.

    Is this a guy that understands what you and I deal with from day to day?

    Not even close.

    Romney is by far the worst candidate for fixing the economy.

    McCain is equally as bad but I give him a slight edge because he at least realized back in  2002 that the Republican tax rebate (bribe the voters at the cost of their childrens taxes going up) was stupid as well as how top heavy the the Bush tax cuts in 2002 and 2003 were.

    Tax cuts will not, have not and do not create jobs.

    Demand and demand solely creates jobs.

    Look at the Clinton years, demand for US products were high, consumer confidence was high and the US dollar was so strong that no CEO's or corporations were whining about high taxes (that GHW Bush put into place prior to Clinton) companies were hiring, giving nice raises, people were spending their money and the economy was through the roof and the middle was getting fatter and with that the bottom was getting pulled upwards.

    Right wingers like to say the "glory years of Clinton"  was all because of the internet boom but that's not true at all. The internet and companies related only accounted for 11% of job growth from 1992 to 1999.

    PS: Right wingers also like to tell the lie that "AL Gore said he invented the internet." What Al Gore did (and said) is that he pushed the Congress to adopt funding to get the internet out into the public as a tool for job creation. He didn't like that it was only being used by our Government. He looked outside the box and look what we have today.

    So on one hand they use the internet as an excuse for a good sound economy for all those years but then they use the very same arguement against Al Gore when he ran for President.

    Do you see how they play this game? And the media allows them to play the game and the media repeats it over and over.

    Back on point......
    But if you create massive federal expenses with limited income (tax cuts) you must borrow which creates massive federal debt and combine that with massive tux cuts mostly for the top  it equals gigantic revenue losses for the feds and you end up with a falling dollar like we've seen now for years which snowballs into what we are just starting to see.

    Believe me, this is only the tip of the iceberg. We are facing a great depression type scenario and no candidate can stop that train from crashing.

    Our banks were minutes from shutting their doors last month and think about how many people have direct deposit. When a company files for bankruptcy (think Enron) guess what? You can't have access to your money even the check you haven't recieved is protected under federal bankruptcy laws when a bank files.

     Think about the chaos that this will cause.

    Democrats pushed hard to bail out people which would then help the banks but Republicans in Congress stuck together and would only approve a deal if it was directly pointed to helping banks, so the feds pumped $130 billion into banks in the past couple of months and it barely even made a dent in the problem.

    Guess who stopped the US banking collapse from already happening?
    Saudi Arabia and Dubai.

    They now own a third of the major US banks and all of them that they didn't buy (does Countrywide ring a bell) are going to crash and burn bigtime.

    The falling dollar and lack of confidence in an economy or the dollar equates to inflation. Again, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg with inflation.

    Let me give you an example of something that is probable according to the GAO. Not possible but probable.

    If we take the wrong measures of renegotiating our trade deals with China and we make them angry they could threaten to want their money for their bonds ($3 trillion which equals 37% of our entire federal debt) and we would have to default because we don't have any money and our dollar would fall 70% in one minute.

    Think about having to pay 70% more for everything AND posessing a dollar that is worth 70% less than it was.

    This is something America has never seen and the GAO which is the only honest oversight agency now in our Government says that this scenario is probable.  This is exactly WHY they are pushing Bush hard to get our National Guard back from Iraq right now to protect banks and farms and to try to stop civil unrest that is sure to happen if our dollar keeps crashing.

    Now throw in a heavy dose of horrible trade polices (some of which is Bill Clintons fault) and you end up with where we are at.

    and don't forget that Romney has no problem at all with businesses policing themselves which is exactly WHY we have the current housing problems and bank failings among a thousand other things.

    They did no federal oversight on banking since 2003 on loans and you saw a heavy dose of irresponsible lending and horrible scenarios like banks lying to people and telling them that they were on 30 year fixed  loans when the small print on page 83 said it was a 5 year ARM.

    I despise the federal Government as much as anyone but it's naive to think that we can let corporations or industry police themselves.

    If they policed themselves they would have created a market for the 45 million Americans walking around with no healthcare.

    If they policed themselves we wouldn't see Polar Bears in the actic with record high mercury levels in their fur. Think about how high mercury levels must be near our shores if Polar bears in the arctic circle are getting mercury on their fur. I will never eat another fish as long as I live.

    We need certain branches of the Government and we need them to work affectively.

    FEMA in regards to Hurricane Katrina was a microcosm of how broken our federal Government is because of this CEO mentality of taking care of corporations at all cost and hope everything else falls into place.

    These guys are breaking important branches of our federal Government on purpose so Dems have to try to fix them later on (which usually means higher taxes on everyone) which means talking points for Republicans in next election cycle.

    They play a sick and evil game with us and what infuriates me more than anything is that they are playing games with not just us but many generations who have yet to be born.

    Right now we are all making interest payments on money that Ronald Reagan borrowed and spent and his spending was tiny compared to this stuff.

    Back to broken agencies.....
    Look at NASA for example. The corporate wing of the RNC didn't like the comapnies who NASA was contracting so instead of trying to open them up for bids they instead change the entire agenda for NASA. They cut funds for the research on the ISS, cut the Hubble out of play, etc.... Suddenly it was all about going to the Moon again and then onto Mars.

    I know top people at NASA. They were scratching their heads wondering why on earth anyone would want to go to Mars. The top dog Sean O'Keefe resigned because of this.

    It wasn't about going to Mars, they knew they we'd never go to Mars, it was about moving money around to friends instead of people they didn't know and it was about undermining a solid federal agency.

    This goes much deeper than FEMA and NASA, our IRS spends $2 to collect 50 cents, the post office is a huge waste of money, homeland security is a complete joke, and even solid agencies have been gutted like a fish like the EPA which does no oversight on toxins in our water or air anymore or the FDA who no loger does independent studies on new drugs. Now we trust drug company research ONLY.

    If an energy company sees no federal oversight then guess what...they stop gathering polution correctly disposibng of it and instead just tosss it anywhere because nobody is looking and profits will go up!

    I could go on forever with this stuff but I have to run.

    take care.

     

     


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Wed, Feb 06 2008, 7:20 PM 103386 in reply to 103385

    Re: Primary Election

    For shits and giggles I timed myself on that last post and it took 9 minutes.

    Giddy up!

    c ya!

     


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Sat, Feb 09 2008, 11:58 PM 104149 in reply to 103386

    Re: Primary Election

    I'll take 30 seconds. Hillary-Obama, or Obama-Hillary. Nuff said! Mike
    The original "Rooster" from the RR board!
  •  Fri, Feb 22 2008, 11:17 AM 107094 in reply to 104149

    Re: Primary Election

    therooster:
    I'll take 30 seconds. Hillary-Obama, or Obama-Hillary. Nuff said! Mike

    While I agree that Hillary and Obama combined would be a productive and positive combination I have to go back to the sad fact that 46% of America will not vote for Hillary under any circumstance which means that if Obama picked Hillary to run as his VP he'd lose to McCain.

    Obama knows this and won't pick her. He'll have to go with a moderate from a southern state or a from a very red state that moderates and some strong conservative Republicans love. He also has to have a strong background in economics because we have one hell of a hole to dig out of and it's going to take some very creative thinking.

     My guess would be that he'll pick Evan Bayh from Indiana who is a Democrat that's extrememly popular in a very red state and he did an amazing job while in office.

     Isn't it sick that suddenly the bad economy is now the top issue in America. This was an obvious problem the minute Bush implemented trcikle down economics and it was even more obvious when they spent money like it was going out of style AND cut taxes on the top 4%.

     It was only 6 weeks ago that President Bush was saying our eceonomy is in great shape and now even McCain is being honest and saying we are going to have some major speed bumps to contend with.

    This is what happens when you have years of trickle down Reaganomics shoved down your throat.

    Let's all look back at reality for a second. What happened after Reagan? Papa Bush had to make some major changes and he even had to raise taxes because of the massive debt from Reagan spending and tax cuts for the top tier (that didn't cause job growth that they promised) 

    Now we are seeing the exact same economic plans which created the same problems and sadly these problems are much worse than Reagan's. .

    After Reagan we had strong manufacturing to fall back on and computers were coming of age.

    Now we have nothing.

    I'd like to see the next President set up a new industry to build a high speed light rail across the country.

    Not only would it to take cars and trucks off the roads (saving lives and gas and oil) but it would also create a ton of jobs to build and maintain.  

    Building high speed rail would a create a much needed industry for economic growth, we'd be going green and we'd save tons of lives and money by moving away from Oil.

    McCain is the last guy that would ever entertain an idea like that.

    It's appaling that McCain is standing up there every night talking about "change." This guy has voted for Bush policy for 6 years. he's the last person standing who would ever enterain change.

    He really pissed me off on Tuesday when he started his speech talking about "security" and more wars on the horizon. If the guy wants to start more wars that's one thing, but at least bury it towards the end of the speech or don't talk about it and just send out emails to the right winger war mongers.

    I'm sick and tired of this fear mongering. Americans are much more likley to die from a hot water heater or a bad piece of meat than they are from a terrorist.

    We need a leader that will start being honest with the American people on what to fear and what not to fear.

    Republican fear has turned way too many of us into a bunch of scared p*ssies and I'm sick of it.

    I wonder how our troops feel knowing that they are fighting wars around the globe to keep us safe but our own Government is at home scaring the sh*t out of us daily and lots of Americans are paranoid as hell that a terrorist might kill them at any minute.

    John McCain is a hero in many ways but scaring the American people in the name of winning an election is as treasonous as treasonous gets.

    The only reason he doesn't want to pull out of Iraq is because he doesn't want the blame if something goes wrong. That's the only reason Bush hasn't pulled out.

    The majority of people at the Pentagon say that Iraq will see a small increase in violence when we leave but it will start decreasing immediately because every Iraqi will start policing their neighborhoods on their own.

    Did you guys know that there have been more violence in Iraq from electricians and plumbers who are out of work than Al Qaeda?

    I'm not making that up. There are a ton of people out of work in Iraq that need money and the only quick buck they can make is from throwing grenades at US Troops. Little kids are doing the same thing (this happened in Vietnam as well)  Bush and McCain keeps repeating the lie that "terrorist are to blame" that's BS. A terrible economy in Iraq is to blame.

    The latest UNICEF report said over 3 million Iraqi's are homeless and close to a million children are homeless. Think about the impact that Katrina made and how people were willing to steal and break various laws to survive and that was less people affected and zero bombs were going off down there and no foreign contractors (Blackwater/Halliburton) were walking around making people nervous.

    In the McCain speech on Tuesday he had the nerve to say that Obama talking about going after Osama in Nothern Pakistan was "naive" and that "he shouldn't anounce his plans."

    Did Bush publically announce that he was going into Iraq before he did? Of course.

    You have to publically announce a plan like that so you not only build political capital with the American people but also let the leadership and people of that foreign nation know that you will not tolerate them harboring a known terrorist that kileld over 3000 people.

    Mr. war hero McCain suddenly doesn't know how to implement strong handed diplomacy or even how to set up a potential bombing run.  If McCain didn't anounce that he was bombing the mountains of Pakistan prior to doing it to get Bin Laden he'd be in a heap of trouble with not only Pakistan and the entire Muslim world but also the UN and India would be hella pissed as well for getting Pakistan fired up.

    The Pakistani people understand what Barrack Obama wants and they have no problem with the US going into the moutainous region in the north to get Bin Laden and that's one of the main reasons they voted against Musharraf's party last week.

    Musharraf is getting billions of dollars from US taxpayers through Bush and in return he's given Bush political cover to be the reason Bush has not gone after Bin Laden.

    The people of Pakistan know that their at risk for harboring a terrorist and they want Bin Laden gone.

    Bhutto wanted that too and look where that mentality got her.

    Now lets see if Barrack Obama can survive the global war machine.

     

     


    Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

    Ben Franklin
  •  Fri, Feb 22 2008, 11:45 PM 107342 in reply to 107094

    Re: Primary Election

    I voted for Obama in the Virginia primary.

    Suprisingly, when I voted bright and early at 7 AM it was like a ghost town.. last election there was a huge crowd of people and a line out the door of people waiting to vote. Obama won.. yay! by a significant percent I think too.



    Sick, sick, sick
    Don't resist
    Sick, sick, sick
    Don't resist
  •  Mon, Feb 25 2008, 2:34 PM 107741 in reply to 103090

    Re: Primary Election

    obama's here today. i was tempted to take off work today and go see him.....but i didn't.

    i will vote for him next week though.Yes

  •  Mon, Feb 25 2008, 9:02 PM 107844 in reply to 107741

    Re: Primary Election

    Sludge:

    obama's here today. i was tempted to take off work today and go see him.....but i didn't.

    i will vote for him next week though.Yes

    My friends went to the rally, there was 18,000 people just waiting outside. They had to fit more than the limit of people in the building. They both really enjoyed it. 



    Sick, sick, sick
    Don't resist
    Sick, sick, sick
    Don't resist
  •  Mon, Feb 25 2008, 9:38 PM 107870 in reply to 107844

    Re: Primary Election

    Unreal:
    Sludge:

    obama's here today. i was tempted to take off work today and go see him.....but i didn't.

    i will vote for him next week though.Yes

    My friends went to the rally, there was 18,000 people just waiting outside. They had to fit more than the limit of people in the building. They both really enjoyed it. 

    cool! i wish i could've went.

    so you're in va beach? i was stationed near there (langley afb) for 4 years.

Page 6 of 9 (125 items)   « First ... < Previous 4 5 6 7 8 Next > ... Last »
View as RSS news feed in XML