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The Music Industry Has Died

Last post Mon, Apr 28 2008, 8:51 PM by CherryHills. 13 replies.
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  •  Tue, Mar 18 2008, 8:56 AM 111991

    The Music Industry Has Died

    The Music Industry Has Died

    If Yall dont know i'm a full time musician. I've been playing guitar for eighteen years. and singing professionally for 15. I take music very seriously and i just feel the need to address this. and see if anyone else is feeling the same.

    which brings me to my next topic of how the music industry has died. Don McLean saw it coming. (the dude who wrote Bye Bye Ms. American Pie.) yes, it has. sorry to say but all that has taken over is money making record labels that don't know shit about true talent and are just after the almighty dollar. and we have now lost the real truth and spirit of music. No orginality, no versaitality. No more bands living all together in one house living off peanut butter and jelly. Nope, Just watered down copy cats with a look to sell. So I guess I cling to the hopes of bands like AIC, Pearljam, Sound Garden, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Audio Slave, STP and all the older great bands. Zeppelin, Beatles,Van Halen, Floyd, The Who, Sabbath ACDC,to name a few. Back then so many great amazing bands. Wherer there was truth in the music.

     now we get Britney Spears and her bald head. yeah thanks.  and yes, i'm 33 and yes, i still wear rock shirts. well the baby doll stylish ones of course but. i'm not a guy. haha. but It does saddden me and makes me wonder if we will ever have another musical revolution. But i feel the Indie Labels are gonna be the way of the new erra. F the big guys. We want the music back.! Ok I'm done being on  my soap box.God I feel like Tom Cruise in Jerry Mcguire with all this.haha. But i really would like to know if anyone else feels the same. I know we got a lot of youger boardies so may not agree with me. but i'm wodering if any of you guys feeling the lack of talent on teh radio too.  please talk amongst.



  •  Tue, Mar 18 2008, 9:18 AM 111994 in reply to 111991

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    This was supposed to be a blog. I got kicked out of the blog for blabbing so much. HAHAHAHA> LMAO> See i don't know what the hell those things are supposed to be.

  •  Tue, Mar 18 2008, 11:14 AM 112008 in reply to 111994

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Great first blog, Lynda!

    You're right about  how different the music world is today.

    We need a MUSICAL REVOLUTION! 

     




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  •  Tue, Mar 18 2008, 5:22 PM 112087 in reply to 112008

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Hell yeah Lynda, music on the radio is SHIT that's why I don't listen to it.

  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 4:23 AM 112220 in reply to 112087

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Music is more alive right now than it ever has been. 

    The "music industry" isn't important.



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  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 5:54 AM 112224 in reply to 112220

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Well there is truth in that. but i'm talking what is made popular today. like the only good stations are all the classic rock stations. which i have to totally give props to Boston radio cause there are a lot of great stations. but to say the music industry doesn't matter. i feel it does matter. if the labels keep producing crap then that's all we'll ever have. cause the people only eat what you feed them basically. musicians and true music lovers they get into the underground indie stuff where the real talent is. but im talking in general. l so it does matter and it matters very much. music is so important and shapes culture more than people realize. and also reflects our culture as well.

     but these people winning grammy's. not all of course cause some like alicia keys that actually plays and instrumetn and can sing are very good. but I swear man some of them  they should just redo pop goes the weesle. cause excuse my french but it fucking sucks ass. got your pop icons with there hairstyles and trendy threads. and now they all talk bout wht there wearing on the red carpet before the grammy's who the fuck cares. why not show all the people up for awards and focus it on the music some how instead people. try and make us look like a better culture than just so materialistic and vain. no truth in anyting anymore. i'm sorry i get really fired up this stuff. cause i take music so seriously and deeply.

    but where the fuck has the music gone? all i can think of is that Umbrella song from rhianna which really the only reason she is where she is. is cause she's hot. lets be honest. i listen to that song and i leterally crackup. cause it's such fucking crap and meaningless and people just bob there head along and agree. hahahaha. it's pathetic actually. it's like i wonder if i were really hot and i redid let's see some dumb ass song. umm. row row row your boat. ok i bet if i was hot people would jsut listen to it. i guess that's my point. and bob there head along hey yeah this is good. ok i'm done my venting. i just wish music would come back the way it used to be. and everyone played instruments and could actually sing. wish there were more band being made today will heart and soul.  there's no soul in a drum machine no matter how you look at it. 



  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 6:04 AM 112227 in reply to 112087

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    It is actually quite sad that the minorities actually think this shit is good because the media tells them it is I also hate how everything is "emo" these days, Ive actually been labeled as an emo for having Alice In Chains, Type O Negative and Opeth on my iPod >_> Ironically enough I was labeled as an emo by a chick that listens to My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy >_< Seems like people don't even realize what they listen to anymore . . .
     






  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 6:16 AM 112231 in reply to 112227

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    music industry - less music, more industry.
    You don't. See. Me
  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 6:32 AM 112237 in reply to 112224

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    lynda31:

    but where the fuck has the music gone?

    It hasn't gone anywhere. I must have said this a million times on this site to the point where Deimos will be shaking his head when he reads it again here: If you can't find good new music, you're not looking in the right place.

    Classic rock is classic rock, and it belongs where it belongs. I find classic rock radio to be the worst kind out there. They've been playing the SAME 20 SONGS for 30 FREAKIN YEARS. And the worst part is, they barely play any GOOD "classic" rock. How many times can you listen to "Hotel California" and "Free Bird"? And they play these songs....every....single....day. I love Led Zeppelin, but I think if I hear "Kashmir" one more time in my life, I'll have to shoot myself in the head just to make the pain go away. We don't need "new" bands like this. We don't need a "new Led Zeppelin," or a "new Pink Floyd." We already have those bands. We need bands that bring something unique to the table. And those bands exist.

    The problem is this: music has evolved, but most people's tastes haven't.

    You shouldn't care about what's popular. You should care about what's good. 



    I AM RIFUGIUM: PRESIDENT OF EARTH.
  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 11:25 AM 112282 in reply to 112237

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Rifugium:

    The problem is this: music has evolved, but most people's tastes haven't.

    The very bands that we all know and love today, who are generally considered by all music fans to be "legendary", all have one thing in common:
    During their inception they were all frowned upon by the general public, beacuse they were new and brought a different sound. The music scene has changed but people haven't (and probably never will), if it's different, it's scary, this was true throughout the 50's 'till 70's when people were still fearing the wrath of Teh Allmighty and it remains true today (even if we're not as religious as we used to be).

    Of course I can't say for certain that we'll regard our favorite bands of the contemporary scene (who have earned their status by being different and unique) as "Legendary", but of one thing I am certain:
    IT WON"T BE FUCKING RIHANNA!!!
     



  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 12:05 PM 112284 in reply to 112237

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    I'm jumping in here with a British point of view, where the music industry and radio stations are pretty different from the rest of the world as far as I'm aware.

    I grew up listening to Radio 1 (national "popular music" radio station run by the BBC) from the age of 5 or 6. I learnt a lot about music and heard a wide range of pop music from 60's right up to the 90's.  then suddenly they decided they needed to be cool and down with the kids, so they brought in a ruling to only play recent music - stuff from the last 2-3 years particularly.  I stuck it for another 5 years at least, cos I'm loyal and I hate adverts (you don't get them on the BBC don't you know lol).  Now all they play is RnB and Indie, so I've finally turned over to Virgin - basically a station listened to by the over 30s .

    I've always like indie music, but todays bands in my opinion are just watered down versions of the bands that made the genre big in the first place - so many Colplay copycats I could happily kill myself!  I have respect for some of these bands and even like a few of them.  But there is nothing new, nothing special about them that sets them apart from any of the other dross. 

    The new thing now is to find the next Amy Winehouse - why can't they just except that she's a one off - she deserves to stand head and shoulders above the rest and not get wedged into a category with other young female singers, who whilst are very talented are fit to lick her shoes!

    I've always embraced new music when I've found it and liked it, my husband was in a band for ages and I went to 90% of their gigs and saw hundreds of unsigned bands, only a few of them in my opinion had what it takes to cut the mustard; again, they were just churning out the same old tut!  Now I'm biased I know, but my boys couldn't be pigeonholed and I suspect that's why no one would touch them, despite them winning battle of the band comps and getting fantastic reviews.  You can't sell someone as the next "whoever" if they sound like no one else! Look at the Artic Monkeys and The Kaiser Chiefs - great bands I agree, but they're ripping off all the cool 80s bands!

    I find now, that I'm going back and discovering bands that I missed and when I do come across some young talent, (wayhey!!!!) they're usually keeping it simple and playing straight up dirty rock n roll.  In the past year I've fallen in love with StoneRider, Black Stone Cherry & Airborne. And guess what???  They're just new versions of The Stones, AC/DC, Zep, Sabbath...

    I am hopeful now with the advent of the big bands flipping off their record companies and selling their own music via the internet that we will see a return to music for music's sake and not all this crap about image, trends, and dodgy haircuts!  Which reminds me HiP - next time someone calls Alice emo you have the permission of every person I know to punch them in the face!  Emo indeed, I ask you how ridiculous!



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  •  Wed, Mar 19 2008, 2:02 PM 112296 in reply to 112284

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    .....LOL, I've spent many hours ranting on this LOL

     

    The problem is, Lynda, that it hasn't died completely yet...worse, it's gasping for breath & the ensuing chaos is what we get in the meantime......part of the problem is the monopoly, part of the problem is the public buying into what they're told is "the best music (artist) out there" ~ and the whole system of measuring sales is corrupt, as well.....the empire has to crash completely in order for the better way to be put in place ~ part of that are those huge dinosaur bands that could afford to come out & make changes/pave the way for a better biz plan, but they've been already spoiled with the money they've made & the way it was made.......they don't want to bite the hand that fed them, and the result is the hand got bigger .....the fastest/fairest way ahead, is for the "old guys" to make a more artist friendly future ~ kinda like Metallica coming up with a contract that's benefitting them more (as opposed to the old school way of the label being on the plus percentage side)......Both fortunately & unfortunately, the scramble to create a new plan/way of presenting new music has brought out so many ways of distributing music, that it has diluted the "quick path" of hearing it.....and people don't always explore ALL the new distribution areas......but it has opened alternative ways of "making it"......

    The internet has been a huge blessing for new music....it's also so VAST that it can hinder finding it.....

    Artists aren't usually business people, or use to be that way.....but in todays world, you gotta be business savy as well as talented......some have started & made some progress, the majority have a long way to go......what most don't realize is that the labels (left in business) are at a disadvantage right now, which should give the artists more leverage ~ they just have to learn how to use that wisely.......

    If anyone dug into the conglomerate of the music business, and found how so much of it is inter owned, inter connected, inbred (LOL), then they'd understand how it got to the point it is now.....way back in time, the record companies have always created bands/artists ~ picked the people, made them produce some money for them, created the whole thing....only back then, they had real talent to back it up...which made progress in the music world.....now they seem to look for the easy way out & still make money......The media use to help spread the word back then, now the media looks for the items that can make them money.....

    It's gonna take a long time to unwind the mess.....and in the meantime, alot of bands just give up, or can't compete financially.....alot of things go unheard, many missed opportunities for the public.....it's a race to educate the buyers & the artists ~ if you ever want to gain any ground quicklyWink 


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  •  Thu, Mar 20 2008, 6:40 PM 112538 in reply to 112296

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    Well I think their were revoloutions in the past because the music industry had the advantage. Radio and MTV trusted them and since their was only a few major labels in the first place they had the oppurtunity to shape the music we listened to. Now with illegal downloading its losing alot of ground and feels threathened. Its never been challenged before so its playing it safe. They used to have popstars bringing in the cash which would give them the oppurtunity to experiment. Now its just all pop.  I read an interveiw with Rick Rubin and he said the only  way to save the music industry is to start a  download subscription service. I think this way they could corner the average listener again and force them to listen to good stuff. That is if they don't get too greedy or scared. After all, it only takes one band.

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  •  Mon, Apr 28 2008, 8:51 PM 120482 in reply to 112538

    Re: Lynda31 The Music Industry Has Died

    I recommend

    Artist: Esthero

    Song: Musical Revolution

    It's a really good song

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