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Memories of Layne

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  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 4:24 AM 80821 in reply to 80768

    Re: Memories of Layne

    That things been going on for years without any resolvement....too bad tons of the evidence was destroyed. One of the detectives working on the cobain case was just forced to resign because he took 10,000 from a dead man's home on a case he was working on. The seattle's pd is known for being pretty corrupt. Still there's a little bit of hope, some cases don't reopen for twenty years +.

    I had to get that out, but man I really hope this doesn't turn into a kurt thread. Point proven.
     


    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 8:52 AM 80845 in reply to 80821

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Aaron Lewis of Staind about Layne Staley:

     http://youtube.com/watch?v=AkEBrrw89i0


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  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 11:55 AM 80867 in reply to 80768

    Re: Memories of Layne

    MemoryLayne:
    andrew408:

    MemoryLayne:
    I believe in the murder theory. But I don't know if they will ever re open the case.

     me too. I doubt they ever will. Courtney has too much power.

    Yeah, I know :( it sucks so much. She's scary. Lets see how far the "justice for kurt" movement goes! 

    i believe Kurt was murdered, I do not believe it was Love's doing. All the evidence against her is circumstantial,[Love & death admitted all the real evidence against her was circumstantial.] which in the court of law can be over come. I hate how the whole movement has become nothing but Courtney bashing.

     

    Anyways I want to note this. There was some interview online that Layne did where he mentioned that he liked Hole, has anyone seen it? It disappeared a few years ago and he mentioned some other cool bands but I don't remember who they are. I know he liked Ministry.


    "Everyone calls America a 'she'. But America has a penis. And that penis is the state of Florida."
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 12:36 PM 80874 in reply to 80845

    Re: Memories of Layne

    andrew408:

    Aaron Lewis of Staind about Layne Staley:

     http://youtube.com/watch?v=AkEBrrw89i0

    That is awesome! =( 


    Lately I've been wishing I had one desire
    Something that would make me never want another



    http://laynestaley.forumotion.com
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 12:40 PM 80877 in reply to 80867

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Laynefan:
    MemoryLayne:
    andrew408:

    MemoryLayne:
    I believe in the murder theory. But I don't know if they will ever re open the case.

     me too. I doubt they ever will. Courtney has too much power.

    Yeah, I know :( it sucks so much. She's scary. Lets see how far the "justice for kurt" movement goes! 

    i believe Kurt was murdered, I do not believe it was Love's doing. All the evidence against her is circumstantial,[Love & death admitted all the real evidence against her was circumstantial.] which in the court of law can be over come. I hate how the whole movement has become nothing but Courtney bashing.

     

    Anyways I want to note this. There was some interview online that Layne did where he mentioned that he liked Hole, has anyone seen it? It disappeared a few years ago and he mentioned some other cool bands but I don't remember who they are. I know he liked Ministry.

    I've never liked Courtney, but I see where you're coming from, some things are hard to prove when all the forense evidence is gone. They should probably look for other suspects and not take for granted that it was in fact Courtney. I do believe it was her, but there's no real way to know I think.

    As for this Layne interview you are talking about... it sounds strangely familiar. I know he liked Ministry cause I've seen pics of him wearing a a Ministry cap. I'll look among my videos and let you know if I find it ;)


    Lately I've been wishing I had one desire
    Something that would make me never want another



    http://laynestaley.forumotion.com
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 12:45 PM 80878 in reply to 80877

    Re: Memories of Layne

    It was like this interview where they asked what his fave band were and what he was currently into... I think it was from the early 90's.
    "Everyone calls America a 'she'. But America has a penis. And that penis is the state of Florida."
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 4:23 PM 80939 in reply to 80878

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Laynefan:
    It was like this interview where they asked what his fave band were and what he was currently into... I think it was from the early 90's.

    I remember there was an interview and when they asked what he was listening to he said "the new flaming lips ep, hole, and I think Ministry???! Now that's really bothering me. Strange that I can remember that interview so well.

    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 4:29 PM 80940 in reply to 80939

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Woohoo. Found it.

    PANDEMONIUM ARTICLE (VOL #29 - APRIL 1995)
    "Layne Staley Unchained"
    -------------------------------------------

     

     

     Maxi and Layne recently spent the evening together in Seattle. Between
    taxi rides and a tour of a few quiet taverns, Layne recorded these
    remarks.

    Maxi: Has Alice in Chains broken up?

    Layne: No. Alice in Chains has taken a break from the strict, stressful,
    busy routine. We're going to relax a little more. We've renegotiated our
    record contract to take the pressure off of having to deliver so many
    finished albums. We're giving them one new album, and then we'll see
    what happens.

    M: What about the Metallica tour? Why did you pull out?

    L: We decided that we needed some time to grow individually. We were all
    tired.

    M: The rumor mill is rich with tales of a huge fight between you and
    Jerry Cantrell. Is any of this true?

    L: No, we get along fine. We have no differences about music or
    direction. We started this band as kids, and as time has gone on, we've
    grown and we are learning to accommodate each others differences as
    friends and bandmates.

    M: What do you think about the treatment that you've been getting by the
    press lately?

    L: I haven't read anything but regurgitated rumors. They [the press] are
    borrowing insults from the previous article. Nothing new, and nothing
    true.

    M: What have you been doing since releasing Jar of Flies?

    L: I have, so far, written songs for half of a record that I plan to do
    myself at the end of the summer, and I recorded the full Mad Season
    record. I also had a feature show at an art gallery with my pen and ink
    drawings.

    M: One of those drawings is on the cover of your new album.

    L: Right. On the Mad Season album.

    M: Give me a brief history of the early days of your career with Alice
    in Chains.

    L: We played the Seattle scene for two and a half to three years, then
    went in to record what we intended to be our own independent record. We
    thought we could find someone to distribute it for us locally. What
    ended up happening, was that Susan Silver and Kelly Curtis came down to
    the studio to hear us recording. Our manager at the time couldn't stay
    with us, and Susan and Kelly said they wanted to help us out. They said
    that if they didn't get us what we wanted in six months we wouldn't have
    to pay them anyintended to be our own independent record.

    M: What station was it that first started giving you radio attention?

    L: KISW. Damon Stewart was the first DJ to start spinning our songs.

    M: How did audiences react to Alice in Chains at first hearing?

    L: They just looked at us at first. But the more we circled around and
    came back to each city, the better the response got. By our third or
    fourth U.S. tour we felt like we were doing okay on stage.

    M: You did four US tours...

    L: We did Extreme, Iggy Pop, Van Halen, Clash of the Titans - that's the
    one that really pushed us over the top. We survived a Slayer crowd every
    night for about fifty days and thought we could do about anything after
    that. Slayer's was not an easy crowd to please.

    M: I imagine you must have started to get sick of some of that material.
    How many times do you think you've played "Man in the Box?"

    L: Hundreds. I think we played it at almost every show.

    M: A lot of people finger your songs on the Singles soundtrack as kind
    of a turning point for you guys. How did that movie affect your career?

    L: It helped a lot to get our music out to so many people who were all
    focusing on the Seattle scene thing at the time.

    M: How is success treating you? What does it feel like to have enough
    money to fly anywhere in the world right now?

    L: [Laughter] I'm not set for life, but I guess I can go anywhere I
    want. If only I knew where to go.

    M: What did you go out and buy after you got your first advance?

    L: I paid a lot to the IRS. No fancy cars, but I bought some good
    recording equipment, guitars, furniture, and I bought a computer. I
    haven't bought much since.

    M: If you were writing your autobiography, what would you put in it?
    What would you want people to know about you?

    L: I've always looked for the perfect life to step into. I've done all
    the work, taken all the paths to get where I wanted. But no matter how
    far I go, I still come home to me. At home I'm just Layne, a guy who has
    interests that extend far beyond music. Music is the career I'm lucky
    enough to get paid for, but I have other desires and passions. Music is
    the doorway that has led me to drawing, photography, and writing.

    M: So where do you see yourself in five years?

    L: Working a lot less, maybe taking some time for my hobbies.

    M: What makes you happy right now?

    L: [long pause] Hmmm... [very long pause] rearranging my apartment, and
    taking photographs.

    M: Talk to me about drugs. How have they affected your life? Do they
    still affect your life?

    L: Drugs will have a huge effect on my work for the rest of my life,
    whether I'm using or not. There are lasting consequences for using
    drugs. It doesn't matter whether I am taking drugs or not, I'll still be
    paying for my prior use.

    M: How have drugs affected your songwriting?

    L: When I'm writing music, I find myself in my head. Whatever dramas or
    chaotic happenings are going on in my life, I can always find that place
    inside my head where I see myself as the cleanest, tallest, strongest,
    wisest person that I can be at that moment.

    M: Do you consider yourself a role model?

    L: No. I hope not. I do have a lot to say about preventing people from
    making stupid decisions. I made a stupid decision and now I'm paying for
    it. My bed isn't made, I'm tired, I haven't slept well for two weeks. I
    haven't been stupid decision and now I'm paying for it.

    M: Do you support the idea of legalizing drugs to get treatment closer
    to users?

    L: I don't think any drug that can cause brain damage, failing kidneys,
    hardening arteries, pain, and suffering should be made available. Drugs
    are not the way to the light. They won't lead to a fairy-tale life, they
    lead to suffering.

    M: Was Kurt Cobain a friend of yours? How did his death affect you?

    L: [Long pause, visible discomfort] Kurt and I weren't the closest of
    friends, but we ran in to each other at shows and hung out. I knew him
    well enough to be devastated by his death. I just don't understand at
    all. The last time I saw him, he gave me a ride from QFC on Broadway to
    a friend's house, the whole way there, which was about a fifteen minute
    drive, he talked about his daughter. For such a quiet person, he was so
    excited about having a child, he really loved that little girl. About a
    month later I saw on the news... [long pause] that he was dead.

    M: How has the Seattle music scene changed since Alice's heyday?

    L: Musicians worked together more then. We colaborated with other bands
    more often. There wasn't as much business pressure on bands. It was all
    about music, about getting your friends to come and see you play. I
    don't see that same intimacy happening very much today.

    M: Do you think that Seattle is still a hot-bed of talent?

    L: I guess so. I've heard some really good industrial music from the
    Northwest lately.

    M: What's in your CD player at home right now?

    L: Ministry, the soundtrack to Bram Stoker's Dracula, the new Hole LP,
    and the Flaming Lips EP.

     




    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 4:51 PM 80944 in reply to 80940

    Re: Memories of Layne

    w00t! Nice score and great interview! I heard likewise that Courtney said she liked Alice in Chains. Flaming Lips are awesome, they are from the same state as Jer & myself. (Norman, OK to be exact.) Kinda Indie but they kick ass. I love 'em. Didn't know Layne liked OST [Original SoundTracks for those who don't know.] Makes me feel better that I'm such a nerd when it comes to game OST's.
    "Everyone calls America a 'she'. But America has a penis. And that penis is the state of Florida."
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 5:00 PM 80945 in reply to 80944

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Ahh I had read that interview before, it's a great one. Imagine Kurt and Layne in the same car :')

    Lately I've been wishing I had one desire
    Something that would make me never want another



    http://laynestaley.forumotion.com
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 6:12 PM 80957 in reply to 80945

    Re: Memories of Layne

    When I was at the QFC on broadway in seattle to get wine and candy one night all I could think about was Kurt picking Layne up from there...and I mentioned that to my friends and all of them simply replied "oh cool" Not nearly as thrown back as I was.

    No one in Seattle really cares anymore. Maybe there just descensitized by now.


    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 7:02 PM 80971 in reply to 80944

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Laynefan:
    w00t! Nice score and great interview! I heard likewise that Courtney said she liked Alice in Chains.

    laynefan...i saw courtney on howard stern’s E! show (when her solo album came out a couple of years ago) and she did give aic props.

    as for the koa post...it might be mostly factual as far as layne is concerned. but she even says she never met jerry, so the negative things she said toward him are really just opinion and heresay. i remember that post from the sony board...it really spurred a shit-storm. and there was a second post from her...a shorter one.  i had it along with the one you posted, but must have deleted them.


    -just you wait 'til everyone is hooked-
  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 7:34 PM 80979 in reply to 80944

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Laynefan:
    w00t! Nice score and great interview! I heard likewise that Courtney said she liked Alice in Chains. .

     

    Damn I would really like to hear/read about courtney giving them props. I know she digs Cantrell obviously, because she brought him in to help write her new album.

    "In recent weeks, Cantrell said he's been taking breaks here and there from his solo work to keep company with one of his "Seattle homies": Courtney Love. "She's an interesting character," he said. "We've gotten together a few times to work on some stuff for her next solo album. She's been working with a bunch of people. I know Billy Corgan's been over there. But I threw a few things at her, and I think we've come up with something different."


    I'm not fine, fuck pretending.


  •  Mon, Oct 08 2007, 11:25 PM 81035 in reply to 80971

    Re: Memories of Layne

    KyleW:

    Laynefan:
    w00t! Nice score and great interview! I heard likewise that Courtney said she liked Alice in Chains.

    laynefan...i saw courtney on howard stern’s E! show (when her solo album came out a couple of years ago) and she did give aic props.

    as for the koa post...it might be mostly factual as far as layne is concerned. but she even says she never met jerry, so the negative things she said toward him are really just opinion and heresay. i remember that post from the sony board...it really spurred a shit-storm. and there was a second post from her...a shorter one.  i had it along with the one you posted, but must have deleted them.

    Ah so it was on Stern, I heard about it from another fan on the jc board.

     

    I heard about it from some of the older boardies.  I didn't know it caused so much contreversy.Funny that it was posted on JC.com and was barely noticable. (Thats where I got it from.) What did the other shorter post say?

     

    Oh yeah SoulDesertion is not online. Last active: 10-08-2007, 10:53 PM SoulDesertion , i heard that Jerry was supposed to work w/ her on her new upcoming album, but I'm not sure what became of that. Because Jerry and Courtney never publically fueded & it seems hes not involved in the devolapment anymore. That was a little over a year ago.... I mean when he was involved.


    "Everyone calls America a 'she'. But America has a penis. And that penis is the state of Florida."
  •  Tue, Oct 09 2007, 6:02 AM 81136 in reply to 81035

    Re: Memories of Layne

    Found this interesting...it's from Johnny Bacolas myspace page. He is from the band second coming and was obviously in SLEZ with Layne.




    "I was born in Seattle, WA. Both of my parents immigrated from Greece and met here in Seattle and married shortly thereafter. My mom is from a town called Lamia, a few hours north of Athens. My Dad from Athens, right below the Parthenon in a rough area called "The Petralona." He passed away December 23rd, 2005. My mom, my brother Timmy and I miss him very much. When I go back to Greece, I stay/live in a suburb called Glyfada, when I'm not on the islands (my favs are Hydra, Santorini, and Mykonos). I developed a passion for music when I was about 5 years old listening to Elton John songs that my dad would bring back from King Tuck's (name of his tavern), his tavern's Jukebox, and began playing guitar when I was 12. I started my first rock band around that time with James Bergstrom, who is still my drummer to this day in Second Coming, and Darin Isaacs. We've been best friends since Kindergarden. I transitioned to bass guitar when I was about 16 and bass is still my primary instrument to date. We started Alice in Chains around this time, at first the band was called SLEZE, I think we were about 13 or 14 when we started that. Layne (Staley) joined the band around that time. We met through his brother Ken Elemer while James and I were still @ Einstein Junior High. Ken told us of his brother who played drums, but wanted to sing really bad. He sold us on the peroxided blonde hair. We thought that was pretty cool. He came and jammed with us and the 1st songs that we played were False Alarm by Armored Saint, and a Slayer song I can't remember. We had a great time. We recorded a few demos and played a ton of gigs around Seattle. Our 1st show was at Shorewood High School (see a clip of the actual video on the video page here). When we were about 18-19, Layne began playing with Jerry, Sean, and Mike, and we basically disbanded. James and I continued on to form what is now Second Coming and recruited a local DJ named Maxi, who was also a killer guitar player and songwriter. He couldn't really sing though. His brother, Ron Holt, was intrumental in all of our early careers as musicians. He kinda formed us, and mentored us. He was Layne's favorite songwriter from what I remember. He wrote the song titled "It's Coming After" that Layne sings on (see that video on this page as well)."

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