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The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Last post Wed, Aug 13 2008, 12:20 AM by Rifugium. 179 replies.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium: PunkyLunky: p.s. you gotta give BB a chance..... I love their vocals. 
I already know Breaking Benjamin. I've even seen them live. Unfortunately for me.

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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium: PunkyLunky: p.s. you gotta give BB a chance..... I love their vocals. 
I already know Breaking Benjamin. I've even seen them live. Unfortunately for me.
they're horrible...i haven't seen em live and i don't want to.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Yeah, it was them, Three Days Grace, and Seether. So basically I saw the same band three times in a row.
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and then Evanescence
I AM RIFUGIUM: PRESIDENT OF EARTH.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium:Yeah, it was them, Three Days Grace, and Seether. So basically I saw the same band three times in a row. ...
and then Evanescence
Nooooooo........ I like Seether and BB! 
 "We play so fine, don't you agree?" ~ Layne Staley "We want to celebrate what we did and the memory of our friend." ~ Jerry Cantrell
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium:Yeah, it was them, Three Days Grace, and Seether. So basically I saw the same band three times in a row. ...
and then Evanescence
I'm so sorry for you and your ears
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
REVIEWGIUM: Agalloch, Ayreon, Kaki King
Volume III, issue 1
Band/artist: Kaki King
Album: Dreaming of Revenge
Genre/style: experimental
Release date: 3/11/2008
Rating: 7.5/10
Multi-skilled guitarist Kaki King has returned with a fourth album, a seemingly logical progression from her previous work ...Until We Felt Red.
As with the last album, this one is a diversion from her first two
albums, which were almost exclusively instrumental and guitar-centered,
and focused primarily on her finger-tapping style. Once again, she has
assembled this overall mild-mannered album, which does not limit itself
to any single genre, but rather dips in and out of various worlds of
style, including bits and pieces of non-aggressive rock, folk, ambient
jazz, and subtle post-rock, all the while retaining a sensible flow.
She also takes on the role of a vocalist more strongly on this album.
Much of her vocals here are very outright, as opposed to those on ...Until We Felt Red,
where they were more subdued and delicate. With the vocals being more
outright, it becomes more apparent that vocals are not exactly Kaki's
forte, yet one still must admire her seemingly increased level of
confidence in assuming the duty of singing.
The album starts with a short, semi-acoustic/semi-electric
instrumental prelude with jazz/funk overtones. Throughout the rest of
the album, there are several instrumental interludes, which contribute
to the overall flow of the album, and do easily stand alone as
individual works, such as the Metheny-invoking songs "Sad American,"
and "Open Mouth," and the shifty "Montreal." "Life Being What It Is" is
the first track to exhibit Kaki's "new" vocals, giving you ample time
to decide whether or not you like them. She does however still utilize
wordless vocalizations in the background that add to the instrumental
section, reminiscent of past songs such as "You Don't Have to Be
Afraid." This harmony-rich technique prevails on other songs such as
"Saving Days in a Frozen Head," and it is in this technique that Kaki's
voice always does seem to succeed. "Pull Me Out Alive" may raise a few
eyebrows at first, but it evolves into a catchy pop tune, and an album
highlight.
Overall, this is a very good album. It may not have the staying
power or even the full appeal of its predecessor, but it remains an
indication of Kaki King's skills as a musician and songwriter, and her
abilities to diversify and not limit herself.
Volume III, issue 2
Band/artist: Ayreon
Album: 01011001
Genre/style: progressive metal/space opera
Release date: 1/29/2008
Rating: 7/10
Ayreon is not so much a band as it is a complex sci-fi themed
project masterminded by Arjen A. Luccassen. This album, as most others
before it, features a long list of guest vocalists (18 this time) and
musicians, taken from many realms of the rock/metal spectrum, each of
whom assume a particular role within the double-album-length concept
presented. These roles on 01011001
take a dual shape as Arjen's contrived race of evolutionary superior
beings known as "Forever," in a plot that involves a further and more
definitive look at their elusive interaction and observations amongst
their child race: "Man."
As would be expected, we see several extremely good vocalists--some
newcomers and some old friends--who give their all, treating Ayreon not
as a side project, but rather as if they were performing for their own
respective bands. Perhaps most essentially, this is probably the most
important Ayreon album in that it presents a storyline that virtually
ties together the previous albums in a meaningful way. Allusions to
previous characters and themes pervade the album--which should be
obvious to long-time fans--and yet they reveal themselves in ways
almost entirely unique to this album.
Song highlights include the opener, "Age of Shadows," which
contains a full array of vocal power, most notably an amazing
interaction between Katatonia vocalist Jonas Renske, and the
ever-stunning, never (never ever) disappointing Anneke van Giersbergen
(x-The Gathering). This striking Renske-Anneke combination is later
revisited in "Waking Dreams." Other standout tracks include "The Truth
Is in Here," which features an amazing yet short-lived performance by
Dial vocalist Liselotte Hegt and Arjen Luccassen, whose vocals are
consistently good, despite his self-proclaimed sub-par vocal talent.
"Beneath the Waves" is another important track, with more great
performances by Anneke, Daniel Gildenlow (Pain of Salvation), and
others.
Downers include "Connect the Dots" and "Web of Lies" (as fans
knowingly nod their heads), two tracks that do contribute to the
storyline in a small way, but are largely unimportant and almost
embarrassing. They respectively feature lack-luster "first impression"
performances by King's X guitarist/co-vocalist Ty Tabor and Epica
frontwoman Simone Simons. The remaining tracks are hit-or-miss, ranging
from fair to good, often containing some great sections, but not really
being overly great songs. As with other Ayreon albums, purist listeners
may agree that 01011001
is a bit too long and drawn out, and not exactly easy to listen to all
the way through multiple times. Another "con" is that many of the vocal
roles seem tacked on, existing just for the sake of having as many
vocalists present as possible. Floor Jansen (After Forever) and Tom
Englund (Evergrey) make substantial contributions, but despite the
various remaining roles, it seems that Jorn Lande (Yngwie, Ark, et al.)
could probably have handled all the rest by himself.
Arjen's strength lies in his creation and progression of a
well-developed and successful musical manifestation of a science
fiction epic that contains a mixture of actual modern-day scientific
ideas and theories, intermingled with an original story that is varied
enough to appear different from album to album and yet come together in
such a way that is ultimately revealed on this album. His major flaw
lies in the lack of universal appeal in his music. Ayreon is definitely
not for everyone, and typically people who hear Ayreon either love it
or hate it, giving rise to a strictly limited fanbase, regardless of
what guest vocalists appear on the albums. As for the DVD, if you like
the Human Equation DVD, you should like this one for the same reasons,
and if you are a fan, it is definitely worth getting. Simone's comment
alone bumps the rating up at least half a point. (When you hear it,
you'll know which comment I mean.) It's safe to say this is one of
Arjen's most ambitious albums, but certainly not his best.
Side note: My rating of 7/10 seems a bit high, all things
considered. But I am giving extra credit for the development of the
main Ayreon storyline.
Volume III, issue 3
Band/artist: Agalloch
Album: The White [EP]
Genre/style: Folk metal/ambient
Release date: 3/11/2008
Rating: 8/10
The White is a collection of songs recorded between 2004 and 2007,
and it embodies pretty much everything expected from Agalloch by now.
Music made of wind, vocals made of frost, lyrics etched in stone and
weathered for centuries within a lost cave amid a dark northern forest.
There are really no surprises here, but that's not to say it's not
worth listening to by a long stretch.
The first half of the album is almost completely instrumental, the
first true vocals being heard just past the middle of the fourth of
seven songs. "The Isle of Summer" starts things off with a simple duet
between an organic acoustic guitar and a conservative electric guitar.
"Birch Black" continues in the same vein, adding some electronics and
ambient effects. "Hollow Stone" continues further, shedding the guitar
and enhancing the ambient, with indistinct echoing voices to be heard
in the background. "Pantheist" sounds like the direct descendant of a
lost medieval organum piece, its haunting chant piercing the flesh,
striking the bone, and shocking the nerves. Such a simple mantra,
nonetheless the kind you wish would last forever. "Birch White"
involves a trio of strict acoustic guitar rhythms, spoken word, and an
accordion, with some natural ambiance. The acoustic, wintry themes pass
into "Sowilo Rune," which contains more spoken word as opposed to
singing, yet this time in the form of a whisper riding on the chill
shadows of the night. The all-to-short journey comes to an end with the
sullen piano-centric dirge, "Summerisle Reprise."
As with previous Agalloch EPs, this one was made in limited
quantities, and with presales in effect, it pretty much went out of
print before it was even for sale. So you may have a hard time finding
this release in a physical form, but it's worth seeking out. This is
probably the most important non-full-length release by Agalloch since Of Stone, Wind, and Pillor, though it just barely enough to keep your taste buds salivated until the next album materializes.
I AM RIFUGIUM: PRESIDENT OF EARTH.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Nice review of the White Ep. It's a nice release following Ashes. Can't wait for their next full length. Just wish they'd tour...
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Agalloch is the shit, I've listened to "Ashes Against The Grain" alot the last couple of weeks. Often enough that the song "Falling Snow" is ranked 12th on my DJ's --Most frequently listened to-- list. I've just started listening to "The Mantle" which is supposed to be their magnum opus, but I'm taking it slow with this one regardless of that fact, because my expectations are high. Haven't heard much of Kaki King, a good friend of mine is somewhat of a fan but I've only listened to the song "Playing With Pink Noise" which I find .....for lack of a better word "gimmicky". She's got major skills to play like she does, but as with alot of other guitarists......there's alot of playing and very little music. But that's just based on the one song, I'll borrow one of my friend's cd's in the near future. Ayreon is getting alot more media coverage than ever before, which really surprised me (Dutch people don't listen to Dutch alternative music, except for a few gothic bands). Even our local cd shack has posters and a display full of copies. That being said I've never listened to them, not going to either. PS:
I've been listening to Burst's "Origo" and I'm really struggling to get through this one. The "singer" is in terminal roar mode (which sounds really retarded during the slow parts) and sometimes even out of synch with the guitars. Some of the songs (like Slave Emotion) sound really pasted together and I can't help but wonder wheter or not they just jotted down some riffs and put them together. The song "It Comes Into View" enters the realm of pretentiousness, with them aiming for creation of a certain ambience......what I heard was stock and boring. "Sever", "The Immateria" and "Flight's End" are the listenable songs, with some nice dynamics and great riffage. "Flight's End" even has some nice female backing vocals at the cost of the lead-"singer" (which is a good thing)
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
_The Mantle_ is great, but I think AAtG is even better. See also, my AAtG review (it's on Amazon somewhere). "Playing with Pink Noise" was on Kaki King's second album. As I allude to in this review, after that album she decided to move on from purely instrumental music (mainly showboating her tapping style), to more diverse music. See also, my _Until We Felt Red_ review (it's on Amazon too).
I AM RIFUGIUM: PRESIDENT OF EARTH.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium:Yeah, it was them, Three Days Grace, and Seether. So basically I saw the same band three times in a row. ...
and then Evanescence
gawd! must've been a traumatic experiance.
Punky Lunky had sex with Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Hey Rif, have you listened to Daylight Dies at all?
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Rifugium:Yeah, it was them, Three Days Grace, and Seether. So basically I saw the same band three times in a row. ...
and then Evanescence
LOL soooo true!
I hate everything about you.
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Oh and I was gonna say to...I will admit that I do like ONE song from 3 Days Grace..I felt horrible for liking it..but it kind of grew on me. :) And Rif...The Pot is deff NOT the best Tool song.... but worst one ever????? I love Tool
I hate everything about you.
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Stantrell: Oh and I was gonna say to...I will admit that I do like ONE song from 3 Days Grace..I felt horrible for liking it..but it kind of grew on me. :) And Rif...The Pot is deff NOT the best Tool song.... but worst one ever????? I love Tool
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Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.
Sludge: Stantrell: Oh and I was gonna say to...I will admit that I do like ONE song from 3 Days Grace..I felt horrible for liking it..but it kind of grew on me. :) And Rif...The Pot is deff NOT the best Tool song.... but worst one ever????? I love Tool
the pot is great. not their best but still damn good.
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