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The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

Last post Thu, Jul 03 2008, 8:08 AM by Rifugium. 158 replies.
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  •  Thu, May 01 2008, 5:53 PM 120990 in reply to 120973

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

    What if something like that happened to me?  Would you guys know?  It's an interesting dynamic, the online community.  I don't know if my family would think to let you guys know or not? 

    But, I do think of you guys as FRIENDS.

     




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  •  Thu, May 01 2008, 6:06 PM 121001 in reply to 120990

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    I've often wondered that. I gave my mother my password and username for everything. So she could notify anyone if something happened. I guess for some people there are pro's and con's to that LOL


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  •  Thu, May 01 2008, 11:43 PM 121093 in reply to 120990

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    PunkyLunky:

    It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

    What if something like that happened to me?  Would you guys know?  It's an interesting dynamic, the online community.  I don't know if my family would think to let you guys know or not? 

    But, I do think of you guys as FRIENDS.

     

    I was anxious after what--2 days--tops?!?!?  Rolling Eyes 

    I often wonder about ppl that haven't been on here for awhile. . .

    Sorry for your loss Rif. . .

    And, I consider many of you as my friends. .



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  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 12:09 AM 121098 in reply to 121093

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    It's pretty amazing. Rateyourmusic has dedicated pretty much their entire front page to him. There's a brief news article on him, all his album reviews are on the front page, and they made a tribute thread for him.

    http://rateyourmusic.com/
    http://rateyourmusic.com/board_message/message_id_is_1471955 


  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 8:25 AM 121129 in reply to 121098

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Left Hug that is so sad about mark.  his writing is brilliant.  maybe some more is archived somewhere.  i would imagine grief for an online friend to be the same as for any other friend.  this is my first forum, but it seems that we exist in a sort of telepathic world of ideas that people are often distracted from in daily life.

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  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 12:48 PM 121220 in reply to 121129

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Yeah, I think he was working on some huge King Crimson project. It sucks too, because KC was his favorite band--like on a spiritual level--and he was going to see them for the first time this summer.

    He also did a write-up on Tool's _Lateralus_ once. It was just as over the top as you would expect from a Tool fan, but I thought it was a pretty interesting take, even if I didn't agree with it. I'm sure that's still floating around somewhere.


  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 2:00 PM 121242 in reply to 121220

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    In an attempt to lighten up my blogxorz, I give this approximate quote from the Kids in the Hall show the other night. A couple was discussing how the other couple’s baby was so repulsive because it was the meanest looking baby they had ever seen.

    Kevin: "Why don't you sing to it? That might make it happy."

    Dave: “I can’t. I just can't. All that comes to mind when I look at this baby is songs of slavery...depression...human suffering...and...and that song ‘Yellow’ by Coldplay.”


  •  Sat, May 03 2008, 1:01 AM 121382 in reply to 121242

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Hey Rif, what's your favorite venue for shows?

    The best show (s) you ever been to?


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  •  Sat, May 03 2008, 8:13 AM 121403 in reply to 121382

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Favorite venue? Geez...I don't know, that's a loaded question. Off the top of my melon, the nicest venue I've been to is probably the Mann Music Center in Philly. But my favorite would probably be a smaller place, like the Church or Johnny Brenda's. I really don't know. The Aragon Ballroom in Chicago was pretty nice. And there's the Sellersville Theatre. Then there's NYC. I can't decide right now. There's so many more good venues that I've been to than bad. But even places with shitty sound can be fun for shows (eg the Electric Factory).

    The best show I've been to is still the '01 Type O Negative Halloween show. LOL  That was so fucking awesome and funny. If I've never told the story of that show here, I'll do so later. I'd have to go through my concert list intently to amass a "best shows so far" list. But I'm pretty sure that show would still be #1.


  •  Wed, May 07 2008, 5:23 PM 122155 in reply to 121403

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    So yeah, I'm finally getting around to being able to gather the events of the past two days in a somewhat coherent fashion.

    It was all about Earth and Kayo Dot.

    Monday's show was at Johnny Brenda's in Philly, which is slowly becoming one of my favorite venues. Good food, excellent beer selection, and just an overall awesome stage setup. Of course I met my girl Mia before the show, and she knows me by now. Twisted As a stalker, maybe. Stick out tongue Since Kayo Dot had the more elaborate stage, they ended up playing first. It wasn't as intimate as the last show(s), of course, but it was just as enjoyable considering there were more people there to enjoy it. They've been playing all new stuff, which is ok, and I gather that that's they're "thing." Progression is a big part of Toby's philosophy. As such, the band's material is continually changing. They're moving farther away from metal and rock, and more towards jazz, classical, and minimalism, all the while retaining everything that makes them avant-garde. Next up was the three-piece Birds of Maya. They were really good. I wasn't crazy about the vocals, but there wasn't much singing anyway. The bulk of their material was instrumental/jam stuff that is really up my alley. Then came the mighty EARTH and all their slow-motion awesomeness. These guys (and girl) are always in the zone, and the show was great as usual. Not a band for everyone of course. Only the coolest people can recognize their greatness. Twisted

    The second day in NYC was about the same, although I felt that the crowd was more into the show, and therefore the bands were more into their performances. Instead of Birds of Maya, the opening act was Zaimph. Zaimph is basically a grungy looking woman with a guitar, a chair, and several small instruments of torture. She played just one, really long drone piece that sort of reminded me of an old-school Earth song. Too bad I forgot my earplugs, because I was right up front, and it was so massive that she almost brought the place down. It was amazing, the sound she would get by just lightly tapping a note. By the way, it was my first time at the Knitting Factory, and it was a cool place.

    Now for one of those happens-to-me-pre-show occurrences. On the train up, I ended up meeting this girl from Georgia (the country, not the state). We hit it off pretty good, and we ended up going to dinner together. Twisted Without going into detail, considering her situation, I don't see anything serious coming of this. But I have her #digits#, so that's that. It was cool. Then the show itself.

     

    Ultimately, although I wanted to see all the bands involved here, I consider seeing Kayo Dot 4 times in one year a great feat, considering their awkward touring. I kind of hope they bring back some of the older stuff eventually, but it's understandable if they don't. I'm just glad I got to see them a couple years ago with their old lineup and older material.


  •  Thu, May 08 2008, 11:24 AM 122279 in reply to 122155

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Have you listened to the band In Mourning? If not, you should check them out. Shrouded Divine is their only album out, but it's pretty fucking awesome.


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  •  Thu, May 08 2008, 3:31 PM 122315 in reply to 122279

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    I've heard about them, but I haven't heard anyone say anything about them. I guess I'll put it on my wishliszt.

  •  Thu, May 08 2008, 5:55 PM 122343 in reply to 122155

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Rifugium:

    Then came the mighty EARTH and all their slow-motion awesomeness. These guys (and girl) are always in the zone, and the show was great as usual. Not a band for everyone of course. Only the coolest people can recognize their greatness. Twisted

    The homeboys over at stonerrock.com recommended EARTH's last album to me and I really love it, so your last statement is false Rif.Geeked

    I really need to see those guys live...
     

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  •  Fri, May 09 2008, 2:30 PM 122492 in reply to 122343

    Re: The Rifugium Chronicles: a thread for open-minded music listeners.

    Yeah, the new one isn't quite as good as Hex, but it's still awesome. The "dark western" thing that they're doing these days is one of the best things ever. Not that I don't like the older stuff, I just have to be in the mood to listen to it.

  •  Sat, May 10 2008, 4:20 AM 122585 in reply to 122492

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    I went to concert #184 this/last night. I really don't have much good to say about it because it was kind of a let-down.

    The concert was "Miles from India: A Celebration of the Music of Miles Davis." I went with high hopes for this show. Miles Davis probably tops my short list of modern-day musical geniuses. I was really anticipating seeing some of his creations in real life, performed by some of the people that originally worked with him. And I walked out disappointed.

    It's not that the music was bad. I think it was the arrangements that were bad. I just wasn't feeling the whole "Indian" thing that they were doing, which by the way involved a small ensemble of Indian musicians, including a vocalist, which I think killed a lot of the music. They were good, but they just didn't recreate the magic in Miles' music, in my opinion. Plus, there are some songs which aren't to be fucked with, such as "In a Silent Way," which I barely recognized when they first started playing it.

    Other than the Indian ensemble, it was a semi-all-star lineup, but the only names I really knew/cared about were Lenny White and Ron Carter. And I guess Adam Holzman. And Carter only played during the first set. Confused And also, the horns section (aka one trumpet and one sax) hardly played a dominant role in the show, and I found that really strange. How do you not have ANY horns at all in "So What"???

    I guess it was my fault for expecting the wrong thing from this show. Namely, I didn't take the name of the show, "Miles from India," as literally as I should have. The songs were arranged with the Indian musicians in mind. Like I said, I don't mind artists' interpretations, but some songs you just don't fuck with, and that what they did last night.

    So ultimately, it was a show of good music, and good musicianship, but not what I wanted to see.

    What do I want to see? If there's to be an end-all Miles Davis tribute, they need to call in the big guns and get together a real, full, all-star cast of musicians, ALL of which worked with Davis, performing the songs that THEY helped create with him back in the day. Make it a personal experience. Many of these guys are still alive, and many are still active. I guess I'm just asking for too much.

    So that show gets a Sad  from me. Which is better than a Evil anyway.

    More details here, for anyone interested. 


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